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Upwork alternative - Freekomuna

Upwork alternative
Prijavite se, upoznajte se, sarađujte, obrađujte, prerađujte i zarađujte!

kaplan
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Upwork alternative

od kaplan » Sre Maj 04, 2016 6:57 am

Dakle, upravo dobih email od Upworka u kojem me obaveštavaju da će umesto dosadašnjih 10% naplaćivati:
- 20% od prvih $500 koje uzmeš od klijenta
- 10% kada uzmeš između $500 i $10,000
- 5% za sve preko $10,000

Kako razumem to bi u praksi izgledalo ovako: Dogovoriš posao sa novim klijentom za recimo $2,500. na $500 ti uzmu 20% a na preostalih $2,000 - 10. Odnoson, uzmu ti $50 više nego ranije.

Kako je Upwork generalno gledano težak krš i bez ove pljačke, najracionalnije bi bilo pobeći odatle. Zanima me da li forumaši koriste neke druge platforme koje mogu da preporuče? Prvenstveno me zanima web development (Ruby on Rails).

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Re: Upwork alternative

od grom » Pet Maj 06, 2016 4:35 pm

Ja sam prijavljen na Toptal, iskren da budem taj servis se pokazao kao najbolji od onih koje sam isprobao. Ako si u mogucnosti probaj da se prijavis, rigorozni su po pitanju upada ali svakako vredi.

Moje iskustvo je da svi otvoreni servisi - znaci one gde mozes da se prijavis bez kontrole i bez placanja clanarine - ne rade najbolje zbog manjka kontrole radne snage. Recimo za posao koji ti procenis sa svojim iskustvom na 500$ dodje 10 nekih raznih poluamatera sa cenom od 100$, obecavaju sve a ne ispune nista. To je glavni razlog sto se nisam puno zadrzao na Upworku (odnosno to je tada bio Odesk).

Inace mislim da i dalje sistem preopruke i poslovanja van ovakvih servisa radi najbolje, samo je izuzetno tesko zapoceti bez kontakata i dobrog portfolia, i treba uloziti puno truda da bi se progurao.

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Re: Upwork alternative

od kaplan » Sub Maj 07, 2016 11:31 am

Hvala Grome. Cuo sam za Toptal i moj problem s njim je to sto ti, kako sam cuo, oni odrede cenu s obzirom na tvoju lokaciju?

Inace, na Upworku mi je problematicno sve osim toga sto si pomenuo :D. Ima svakakvih developera ali ima jos gorih klijenata, i istrenisras se vremenom pa prepoznas one koji ne znaju sta hoce ili hoce mnogo za nikakve pare. Neko moje iskustvo je da mozes bez problema dobiti posao za koji se javlja i 50+ ljudi ako si slican porblem vec resio nekom drugom i lepo objasnis klijentu sta je sve potrebno, zbog cega i koliko ce da traje.

Problem su ovi dinkicevski procenti, platforma koja je uzasno spora, to sto te nikada nece zastiti od loseg klijenta, sto ti je zarada javna (ukoliko ne platis nekakav premijum akaunt pa je sakrijes)...

Potpuno se slazem za preporuku, ali ja nisam u situaciji da mogu da se oslonim samo na to. Na preporuku dobijem klijenta svaka 3 meseca i onda ako se dogovorimo opet radimo preko Upworka :isuse:

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grom
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Re: Upwork alternative

od grom » Uto Maj 10, 2016 5:18 pm

Na TopTalu sam biras svoju cenu sata, ali oni gledaju da te uglave u okvir proseka za region u kom zivis, iz razloga sto ces tako mnogo lakse i cesce dobijati projekte. I ne uzimaju ti nikakve procente, dobijas svoj full deo, ono gde zaradjuju je to sto naplacuju vise od klijenta, ali to je njihova stvar, bas te briga. I stite vrlo svoje developere od losih klijenata.

Inace UpWork je shit jer procente uzima od developera, a ne od narucilaca, tako da je njima svejedno da li ce da se drze UpWorka ili ne, ali im je UpWork poznato okruzenje pa kao ajd tamo.

Za ovo sve ostalo sto si pomenuo - sve razumem :) jedino sto mozda mogu da ti preporucim je agresivniji nastup svojih usluga online - napravi neki sajtic, predstavi se, sastavi portfolio pa ce ti stizati ponekad neki enquiry o angazmanu.

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Re: Upwork alternative

od kasijus » Čet Maj 12, 2016 1:21 pm

Ima li nekog web developera koji radi na TopTalu? Interesuju me kakvi se projekti rade, jesu li to projekti koji se rade duze (mesecima)?

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Re: Upwork alternative

od dakiriki » Čet Maj 12, 2016 5:30 pm

Evo još jedna alternativa:
Imaju proces prijema i odobravanja, nije nešto jako rigorozan.
Što se provizija tiče, sistem je sličan Upwork-u, s tim da je prva naplata 15% i mislim da je u stvari mesečno.
Prvi posao 15%, drugi 3%.

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Re: Upwork alternative

od Zlaja » Pet Maj 13, 2016 9:49 am


kaplan
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Re: Upwork alternative

od kaplan » Sre Jun 01, 2016 5:52 pm


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Re: Upwork alternative

od dakiriki » Čet Jun 02, 2016 1:52 pm


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Re: Upwork alternative

od kaplan » Čet Jun 02, 2016 6:35 pm


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